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'll be back tomorrow. secretary john kerry's meetling this hour with his russian counterpart, sergey lavrov, earlier today, they had a brief discussion in which secretary kerry urged direct talks between russia and the ukraine. according to a senior state department official. >> united states of america, the russian federation, and the united kingdom of great britain reaffirm their obligation to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of the ukraine. there are very clear legal obligations that are at risk in this, and we're going to talk about those this morning. >> andrea, as i said, is traveling with secretary kerry and filed this report from paris today. >> chris, here in paris, john kerry has a very tough diplomatic game. he's playing all the angles. he's trying, first of all, to rally the allies, trying to get them to hang tough against vladimir putin. here in europe, where, of course, they all dependent on russia for their energy, for less expensive natural gas. so some, including germany, are a little more reluctant to be to
and in rome. you will see sergei lavrov but doesn't seem they are backing down. >> it does seem, the ukrainian government and military, russian military out of uniform but there, are trying not to shoot at each other to be blunt. >> i think that's true. i think there were some shots fired today apparently and there are ship movements and worrying facts on the ground. so far it has not been a violent confrontation. kerry was praising ukrainian leaders for showing restraint because the provocation politically and russia could move farther into the rest of the ukraine. so he is urging them to pull themselves together into an interim government that doesn't give putin any pretext that he can point to to try to take control of an entire country. >> let's talk about the president, our president. president obama seems to be allowing the russians do have an interest in ukraine in the sense there's a history of the russian people living there, russian speaking people being there, actually russian natives as well. they've got the fleet down there in the black sea. they seem -- he seems to be saying, you
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